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Tv shows wont scrape without manually adding .nfos to show folder

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Ok so here is my problem so far after a great deal of experimentation. The only way I can get any of my tv shows to scrape in xbmc is by manually adding in a .nfo file to the shows folder that is for the show in its entirety and then going to the show in xbmc and telling it to refresh. Otherwise, the shows files just sit in the "files" section and dont ever scrape or add to the tv shows section at all.

im using proper folder and file naming conventions according to http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=Add.../TV_shows. For example, for the show Dexter, the show folder is named Dexter (2006), all the episodes for the show are contained in it, and the files all use the naming convention, Dexter.01x01.Dexter.(2006), which should work just fine according to xbmc naming conventions.

With no files other then the episodes themselves in the folder I have tried loading the source, setting it to scrape as a tv show with the TVDB scraper, set it to "Selected folder contains a single TV show"and loading it and it does nothing. It puts the files in the files section, it creates thumbnails for each episode, and they will play, but it will not scrape any kind of information for it and there is no manual scrape or refresh option since it is still sitting in the files section, not in the tv shows section, which if this is the only show source loaded, doesn't even show up.

I have tried loading the source folder without the year in it, i have tried loading the source with the year replaced with (en), I have tried loading it with no year, I have tried replacing all the .'s in the names with spaces, I have tried removing the () from the year in the folder and removing the year from the files, nothing I try works and with no manual scraping option for files sitting in the files section there's seemingly nothing I can do with it.

the only thing that i've managed to find that works at all, is if I manually create a .nfo for the show using ember media manager it will at least load the show info but not any of the episodes into the show, then I can go to the TV Shows section, open the context menu, go to show information, and refresh from there and it will fill in all the rest and works fine, but it doesn't seem like this should be necessary. I mean is this really the only way to get shows to scrape at all or am I missing something big here because I am completely out of ideas on how to make this work without manually creating .nfos. I know its not that much more work to create them but if at all possible id like to just skip this step since I just have xbmc exporting the exporting the video library files anyways so the files I would normally create with Ember are just going to be replaced regardless. What I really cant figure out is why it scrapes my movies with the same naming conventions perfectly, without the need for .nfos premade before scraping but it wont do the same for my tv shows. I could really really really use some help on this cuz its driving me nuts not being able to figure it out.

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